Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
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Frequently Asked Questions: NO - you lose nothing doing it at any time in the second year, and meeting the requirements in any order. If you wait, you'll find weather or maintenance issues conspire against you and you won't get it done. When you have met all the requirements for revalidation, even if your rating still has months to run, you can get signed up in advance so that your expiry date is extended by another 2 years beyond that original date, thereby wasting nothing. (See previous question if you want to know who can sign you up for another 2 years) Return to top NO - if these different aircraft are all in the Single Engine Piston (land) class, then you add together any experience on any of them - they are all 'the same thing' as far as the 2 year class rating is concerned, unless they have a specific type rating like the Piper Malibu. You don't even have to do a single flight in any particular one of these 'variants' - if you did all your '12 hours' requirements in a simple Cessna 150, getting your S.E.P. rating signed off again covers you for all your S.E.P. aircraft for another 2 years, whatever their propellors or wheels do. Equally, if your 12 hours consisted of some sort of 'mix', eg: 4 hours on a Cessna 150, 6 hours in a Cub (taildragger), 2 hours in a 'retractable' Piper, there's no difference (other than the fun factor), this mix also meets the 12 hour requirements for S.E.P (land) Class. Same applies for the 90 day passenger rule - all experiences within a class add up together. Return to top Look at your 'expiry date' on the certificate of experience in your licence. One way to revalidate is to wait until you have under 3 months to go, and then have a proficiency checkflight with an examiner - a sort of mini-GFT similar to a good rental checkout but since Oct 2004 this has included a navigation leg too. Your original expiry date would then be extended by the 2 years. You can actually do this one flight (the proficiency check with an examiner) at any time, but if it is not in the final 3 months before expiry, your rating will be renewed from the date of test, not the date of original expiry. One thing to note is that if you abandon the 12 hour route to take this test and FAIL, you cannot fly again as pilot in command until you have passed a re-test, so the 12 hour route effectively disappears if you take the test and fail. Return to top You have to undergo a special Flight Instructor Course ("FIC") with an FIC Instructor, to become a restricted flight instructor, teaching under the supervision of an unrestricted one. You could not charge for tuition until you have a Commercial Licence. (An old BCPL counts). The FIC course involves 30 hours flying (some simulator possible, talk to the chosen school) plus 125 hours groundschool (some of that is "directed self tuition"). The test is gruelling - maybe 90 minutes in the air (including spinning) and about 3 to 4 hours being grilled on the ground. There are pre-requisites to the course, namely:
In daytime, as a basic PPL, the circumstances where you would want a Special VFR Clearance for Class D or E Airspace are extremely rare - so rare you can almost forget Special VFR. In Class D or E it is almost just a procedural device to get around certain laws. For example, it allows an IMC rated pilot to fly in a VFR-like way when the visibility is less than the 5 km minimum for VFR (but at least 3km). There are reasons for a basic PPL to use Special VFR - see next question. Accepting that you hardly ever need it, if you did ask for it, either in ignorance or deliberately, you force the controller to separate you from other SVFR or IFR traffic by a certain distance. This sounds like a great idea, but isn't, as the controller will NOT provide any separation at all from other VFR traffic. It will also probably delay you considerably, as for your departure, the controller will keep you on the ground when any IFR or SVFR traffic is around, or make you orbit at VRPs if you are arriving, whilst separation is maintained from IFR or SVFR traffic around the airfield. For the normal PPL holder, VFR minimum visibility in Class D is 5 kilometres, but for Special VFR it is DOUBLE that - you need 10 kilometres minimum to remain legal, If you are a basic PPL, unless you really understand Special VFR, you should only ask for it in the circumstances detailed in the next question. Return to top Well, as a basic PPL, subject to a 10 kilometres or more visibility:
Yes, subject to:
Firstly, are you sure you understand the question? IFR is probably one of the most misunderstood concepts for UK pilots as the term IFR is used differently in the UK to other countries, but as you will see, it doesn't actually matter in practice. Recent JAR changes have caused some confusion, as it appears that the committee who drafted JAR also didn't really understand how IFR is used in the UK. Since then, a 'fix' has been applied to JAR which unfortunately only half cured the misunderstanding. If your PPL was issued pre-JAA, the following applies day or night, and 'thanks' to the supposed 'fix', JAA PPL holders in the UK can only take advantage of this at night! Your UK licence is a licence to fly - you won't find mention of VFR or IFR in it. On a simple PPL, the Air Navigation Order stops you flying IFR in classes "A through E" controlled airspace, leaving "F" and "G" ('the Open FIR' to use an old term). (Note for American pilots:- we have enormous expanses of Class "G" in the UK which is not 'topped' by Class "E" as it is in the USA). So, a UK PPL holder, or for that matter a student pilot can fly 'IFR' in Class F or G airspace in the UK. Surprised? Well, here's why: UK G.A. pilots often confuse 'IFR' with 'flying in IMC' (eg: in cloud), or sometimes, also wrongly, with "flying commercially" or "flying in airways". It's actually not any of those, IFR or VFR are just the rules you decide to adopt for the flight. Consider it is a completely clear blue sky day, and you are in an aircraft which is legally capable of IFR flight (altimeter, gyro instrument, non-permit operation) and you are in Class G airspace.
As you will see from this, the misunderstanding that basic PPL holders cannot fly IFR in good weather in Class G means that the UK pilot always flies VFR by default, guaranteeing "nothing to no-one", so the misunderstanding spreads to the point where if you actually talked about flying IFR, fellow pilots would almost always assume you meant that you were "in IMC" - eg: in cloud. When visibility deteriorates to conditions where VFR is no longer allowed (ie: IMC), you would not have a choice, and would have to go 'IFR', EXCEPT THAT your basic licence does not cover you for flights in those conditions, (in fact, never below 3000 metres visibility or out of sight of the surface), so the question of IFR or VFR is meaningless. I don't recommend you suddenly start declaring you are flying IFR on a sunny blue day just because you suddenly realise you can. However, a daytime example of why you might want to fly IFR is to 'beat' the VFR cloud separation rules above 3000'. If you are in Class F or G, above 3000', and you cannot maintain the standard separation vertically (or horizontally) from cloud which VFR demands, but you are still clear of cloud and in sight of the surface, and in visibility of 3km or more, (both of which are requirements on a PPL holder imposed by the Air Navigation Order at all times), you can adopt Instrument Flight Rules pressure setting, headings and flight levels, and legally fly "IFR" providing you stay clear of cloud, in sight of surface, a minimum vis of 3km and stay outside controlled airspace. If you still dont believe a UK PPL can fly 'IFR' (the confusion is so endemic this happens!), then ask yourself how a PPL flies at night (assuming a night qualification is held). There are only 2 ways to fly in Class G: IFR or VFR. There is no VFR at night in the UK in any airspace. If you are flying outside controlled airspace at night in the UK, there is nothing else except IFR (and the associated heading / height / obstacle clearance noted above). I still meet pilots with night qualifications who don't know this, usually becuase their instructors didn't understand the concept either! Return to top They relate solely to visibility and 'lowest level of cloud desginated "Scattered" or worse'. As they are designed for military pilots they concentrate at the 'difficult end' to help distinguish between different conditions for instrument approaches. G.A. pilots should be wary of GREEN (which sounds good!) as it is not brilliant and could even be illegal in the Class "D" airspace around some military bases. My graphic showing the definition is here: Military METAR Colour Codes. White and Blue are the ones to interest general hobby flying, but remember they do not cover 'winds' in any way, and do not appear on forecasts (TAFs) although they might be quoted verbally in forecast context. Return to top No - if you have night qualifications then you can legally fly solo at night for the whole of the validity of your normal rating - so if you have a Single Engine Piston (Land) rating valid for 2 years and a night qualification, then that is valid at night too for all that time for solo flight. The only snag comes when you want to take passengers. The 90 day rule applies, (see item 7 above) and you must have done 3 take offs and 3 landings in the previous 90 days to take passengers, and for night flight, one of each of those must have been at night. So you might have to do a quick solo circuit before taking passengers unless you meet the 90 day rule. Return to top There were 5 features in JAR which make an SEP aircraft a 'complex variant', there are now 7, and there are 6 for the equivalent in the UK NPPL. The first time you fly an aircraft with one or more of the following, you need signed-off successful training for that feature from an Instructor.
If you have flown a complex feature a long time ago, legally you still can without any re-training - do you want to? For retractable gear, maybe, maybe not - for tailwheel, I think you might need some refreshing with an instructor! SEE ALSO Q12 - these hours in any SEP Variant all add together towards your SEP hours for revalidation or the 90 day passenger rule. Return to top Overhead joins, given a high enough cloudbase, are the best way to join the circuit at a non-controlled field. If traffic joins at other points (crosswind, downwind, base, even final approach), then there are multiple points of potential conflict. By everyone joining overhead, this reduces to one place. The basic rule is:
Well, the 12 hours and take-offs and landings should be no trouble, but your hour long instructor flight needs to be with an instructor from a JAA aligned State. This is a fairly recent decision and is bound to cause a lot of problems for people in places like Canada, the USA away from the usual JAR schools. It's not even quite as simple as getting a JAA instructor who is passing by to give you the hour's flight. As he or she will be 'p1', not you, he or she will have to comply with whatever the local country wants to be allowed to be 'p1' in a local aircraft. If you manage to get all your revalidation done, you may need to send the paperwork off to the CAA at Gatwick to get your rating revalidated on the ratings form in your licence (early version were called FCL 150CJAR). Return to top Nowadays, YES. The CAA will provide a sticker for your medical to say so, should you need to show the medical to anyone who couldn't easily check (eg: to FAA authorities whilst flying in the US on vacation). Return to top No, there's no official designation you could use in this case, you are merely a passenger. If you just want to record the flight for posterity for some reason, you could put it in your logbook and designate it PASSENGER rather than P1 or P2 but you mustn't put any time at all into the columns which 'total up'. Before any flight, it must be clear who is pilot in command. This pilot logs the time as P1. It is permissible for the role to be swapped sometime in the flight, but you can never double log the P1 time. eg: An 80 minute flight normally ends up being all 80 minutes P1 to one person, but by agreement it could be (say) 50 to one and 30 to the other. You decide between you, as long as you both know who is in command at any moment, sharing the time is ok as long as it is not double logged. If two qualified pilots are both sitting with controls, not only discuss who is P1 but also who will deal with emergencies such as EFATO. Without the discussion, it is very easy to get confusion at the very moment when there is no time for discussion. Logging P2 is reserved for flights on aircraft which are designated as requiring two pilots at all times, so any p2 logging on normal GA SEP aircraft is a nonesense. The other confusion which is very widespread is the logging of P1 (Pi/c) and P1/s (or Pic/us) for rental or syndicate checkouts. Many instructors log P1 to themselves and tell the pilot being checked out to log p1/s just for a rental checkout. This is SO endemic in the hours-building world, no-one bothers to read up on it. If you want to read up on it, try LASORS, the 'bible' for interpretting regulations. In there you will find a large table of 'when to log what' but don't read it before looking a the footnotes. You'll find out from the footnote that of all the cases listed for P1/s (Pic/us), the only one approved for use by PPLs is logging by a PPL is the 'successful test with an examiner', or specific flights pre-authorised by the CAA. If you have P1/s (or Pic u/s) in your log book and it was for a rental or syndicate checkout, not a test with an examiner, have a think about what made you decide to log it like that way. (Logging is your responsibility.) Was it you after reading LASORS, or was it because 'everyone does it' or you were told by someone who would benefit from taking the P1 time themselves? What happens if you log p1/s today and in 6 months time the CAA decides that p1/s hours on a rental (or maybe more likely, syndicate checks) is not what they meant by a test and tell examiners clearly that it should not count? (When I applied for Instructor Revalidation in 2001, my log book was checked that I was not including P1 hours on these pure rental checks as instructional training hours.) For rental checkouts, if the renter is fully legal to fly, I log nothing and the renter logs P1 for the whole of the checkout, but then I'm not hours building! We just have a pre flight agreement that Pilot In Command transfers to me should I need to say "I have control". Return to top Well, are you sure you want to? (See Q and A number 4 above). Many pilots fly quite happily in the UK on their foreign licences, keeping them valid. The reasons you might decide you want a JAA PPL are to get a higher UK rating eg: an IMC rating, or you might not be able to renew your foreign licence here and have to go back to your licence country every one or two years (eg: NZ and Australian licence holders have this problem, where-as US and South African licence holders can get renewals in the UK.) There may be a reason soon - with EASA taking over licensing in 2012, they are believed to want to stop foreign licence holders flying UK aircraft, and will have Draconian conversion requirements - so you may want to convert to a UK JAA PPL before 2012. Anyway, whatever the reason, to convert the PPL, you would need to:
footnote: A new amendment to LASORS (the CAA interpretation of rules) recently suggests that an expired foreign PPL (up to 5 years expired) with 100 hours total time can convert as above, but with extra further training devised by the JAA school AND doing ALL ground exams. LASORS seems to leave expired foreign PPLs with less than 100 hours in limbo, but I believe this is an error in LASORS (a missing 'asterisk' on a paragraph) and conversion to a JAA PPL is possible. Contact me for the latest on this if you are in this situation (ie; foreign PPL expired less than 5 years, less than 100 hours total time) as I have been in touch with the CAA about this, and pilots have now converted from expired licences with under 100 hours!) Return to top Just think - after a 'touch and go', ask yourself if you landed the aircraft? How can the answer not be "yes"? Then ask yourself if you took off again? How can the answer not be "yes" again? (Also, can you imagine trying to convince a local council planning authority that had put a maximum limit on aircraft movements that a 'touch and go' was NOT a landing followed by a take off?) A touch and go is definitely one landing followed by one take off for 90 day or SEP/TMG revalidation purposes. If you are told otherwise, it was probably either by the person charging you for aircraft rental (full stops take longer) or it was someone confusing this issue with the night qualification training (prior-, not post-issue). Where either JAR or the law wants full stop landings, this is specifically stated in the regulation. There is no requirement to 'full stop' in the 90 day or revalidation requirements. Return to top Valid in the UK (and Channel Islands):
You might want to look at the official NPPL site , but also, as the page you are looking at now assumes you have a JAR PPL with SEP rating, I have created similar FAQ page for the NPPL - click on this: NPPL-FAQ Return to top Obviously if you spend a fortune and kit out with the latest fm-immune everything, then you can't go wrong (just broke). If you don't upgrade at all, my reading is that for normal light aircraft, Comms do not enter the argument. For IFR I believe it is clear - if you depend on VOR or ILS localisers, your equipment must be FM-immune. For VFR operation they do not need to be. Here's my background (less intelligible) reason for why I come to that conclusion. Assuming your aircraft is OK for IFR (eg: non-permit, the correct equipment for the airspace) and your aircraft is 5700kg or below in mtow, then there are conditions where you can fly under either set of flight rules with non fm-immune equipment. FM immunity rules theoretically only affect COMMS (VHF), VOR and ILS localisers. (In practice my personal opinion is that it doesn't affect anything!). There are (at least) two documents worth looking at, and I have drawn my conclusion from these: CAA AIC on FM Immunity AIC 87/2000 PINK 7. CAA Airworthiness Directive issued autumn 2000 - see bookmark 84. Reading these, it is fairly obvious that
As for IFR flight, well firstly make sure you know what you mean by that
(See FAQ17 above).
There's no real point in thinking about this until you know the real meaning of VFR and IFR.
Complex aircraft (tailwheel, retractable, constant speed props, pressurisation, turbo/supercharged) were originally meant to be flown every 2 years to keep the ability to fly them in future, and I believe the AIC on this says so. However, soon after the AIC came across, a JAR NPA (I think it was NPA 7) decided that for SEP aircraft, once you were complex qualified, you remained qualified on SEP aircraft even if you didn't fly the complexity every 2 years. Therefore, once 'retractable qualified', you remain so on SEP aircraft whilst you have an SEP rating. (The NPA was incorporated into the JAR which the Air Navigation Order 'points' at.) Return to top According to the AIC 3/2004 (white 92) issued January 8th 2004 it seems that a JAR SEP rating can be used on microlights and SLMGs after signed off differences training. This is contrary to advice the CAA used to give out, that a GFT is needed. The AIC can be found at your flying club or on the AIS Online Website. Return to top A JAR medical's validity period is based on the age you were when it was issued, not the age you are at the time of using it! Therefore you would get a full 2 years if it was issued just before your 50th birthday. However, for some reason this does not apply to pilots getting 5 year medicals coming up to their 30th Birthdays - their '5' year period will not be allowed to go beyond their 32nd birthday. Validity periods are currently in this CAA document, but I suspect some Class One validity periods might get more liberal in 2006, especially for over 40s. Return to top Generally you need: 1- Documents specified by the ANO as you are in a G-reg aircraft (see below) 2- Documents otherwise needed - even if you weren't in an aircraft. eg: Passport 3- Documents a foreign country may want in addition to our ANO requirements. eg: VAT receipt, insurance, log book, or maintenance Release to Service. The ANO requirements are (for private flights, in addition to those required for internal flights):
If you had an aircraft registered in the same country as your PPL and I/R, you could really fly anywhere (in whatever airspace) you wanted. If, as per Q&A 4, you mean in a UK ("G-registered") aircraft, that would give you some of the privileges of an IMC rating, but not all. It would allow IFR flights OUTSIDE controlled airspace in the UK (ie: Classes F and G), but you could not fly IFR inside controlled airspace (Classes A to E), where-as an IMC holder could do so in all but Class A, If you have a CAA or JAA PPL too, and you get an ICAO compliant Instrument Rating, the CAA will usually add an IMC rating to your CAA or JAA PPL if you apply to them for it. Return to top You should be able to count up to 10 hours towards your 45 for the JAA PPL, although this statement seems to have disappeared from the rules - check with the UK CAA. However, if you can prove the training was done towards an ICAO PPL and you have copies of your training record from your original school abroad, a recent change says that if you completed a training towards an ICAO PPL but the licence was not issued, then you can send all your training records to the UK CAA for assessment, and they will devise a training requirement to count these to a JAA PPL. It will definitely include the full Skills Test, all the ground exams, the radio tests, and as well as any other training needed, and what is called the 'Qualifying Cross Country' flight where as a student you fly a triangular route of 270 km stopping off at 2 other airfields en-route (and get a certificate signed at each). Unfortunately the wording is (as usual) ambiguous. It would appear to suggest that you have to complete the training towards another PPL (but not ake the test). However, I believe it can also be interpretted as completing a formal training course which was only a section of a full foreign licence course (i.e. as opposed to wanting to count various hours from 'pseudo sight seeing tours' with instructors whilst abroad). The only people who can decide what it really means is the UK CAA, so don't spend any money on 'half courses' in ICAO countries until you have definite answer from them as to whether it would count more than 10 hours. Return to top You need form HO60 (I have a poor quality copy linked below - it works for me!) and the draw back rate (which, Oct 2005, is £0.281 per litre exported.) Try this link for the current AVGAS current Rate. You fill in the form, attach fuel receipts for fuel loaded in the UK prior to your flight, and send the forms and receipts to: HM C&E, Mineral Oil Reliefs, Dobson House, Regent Centre, Gosforth, Newcastle, NE3 3PF The form HO60 - I'll get a better quality copy, but in the meantime use these two separate pdfs to create one double sided A4 form. This is page 1. This is page 2 to print on the back of page 1. Return to top Not if you have a basic UK issued PPL without additional IMC or instrument ratings. Pilots confuse VFR with basic UK Air Law. If you have a basic UK issued PPL whether it is JAA or pre JAA, your legal minimum anywhere is 3 km (it might be greater). This is NOTHING to do with VFR, it's just that our Air Navigation Order says so. (If you have an NPPL with 'SSEA' (Simple Single Engine Aircraft) your minimum ever is 5km, again, not due to VFR limitations, but because our ANO says so.) Visual Flight Rules are set internationally as a 'base' to be further over-ruled or adjusted by national air law. Schedule 8 of our ANO gives the privileges of a basic PPL issued in the UK, and it says NOT out of sight of the surface, and NOT in visibility of less than 3km. So if you flew under a normal UK issued PPL with visibility at 2km, you could still be VFR depending on your altitude and speed, but you would be breaking rules set by our ANO. The way to think of this is that being VFR does not exempt you from other parts of Air Law. i.e: claiming you were 'VFR' is not an excuse, you wouldn't be accused of 'breaking VFR', you'd be accused of breaking Air Law as per Schedule 8 of the ANO whilst you happened to be VFR. If you still don't get it, take a different idea altogether: If you were in CAVOK conditions at only 400' agl over the middle of a large city, you would be VFR but you would NOT be legal - you would have broken 'Rule 5' of the ANO on low flying whilst you were VFR. It would be pointless putting in a defence of the conditions being VFR. Equally, if you fly on a basic PPL at 2km, it's pointless defending yourself by saying you were VFR, as it's an ANO regulation (not VFR) you have broken by being under 3km. Return to top If you don't revalidate via the '12 hour route' (which include an hour with an instructor and the paperwork/signature from an examiner before expiry), you have to do a test with an examiner, which is "fail-able". What the test is called depends on when you do it - before expiry (and therefore replacing the 12 hour route altogther), it's called an LPC - licence proficiency check. After expiry, it's called an LST - licence skills test. Both an LPC and LPT used to be a "good club checkout" - a general handling test, but since Oct 28th 2004, these tests must also contain navigation. The length of the nav leg is up to the examiner. Here is the LPC or LPT content in pdf form. This is the examiner check sheet, but you can ignore sections 3b and 6 for SEP LPC revalidations or LST renewals. It contains some things you may not expect - "abandoned take off" for example. Return to top It's only a paperwork and money exercise. Normally you must have had a valid JAA rating sometime within the previous 5 years, and you must have a JAA medical which is valid on the first day of new licence issue (i.e.: the day after expiry of your old licence). Within 60 days of your licence expiry, you print and fill in this JAA licence document renewal form. Then you look up the cost of a JAA PPL (or CPL) 5 year re-issue in this list of CAA charges for either private or commercial licences. You then also print the CAA Payment Form. -Then you send the required documents (as specified on the renewal form) with the two forms to the CAA with payment. Return to top Try the danger area link on this NATS page which also has the backups for NOTAM lists when the main notam checking site is down. Return to top Try this for the index but the chances are you will need to pay something when you submit your form, so there is also a general 'form to make any payment' form. which accompanies the main form you send in! And you need to know how much (prices tend to go up in April of each year, so you need the list of CAA charges for either private or commercial licences. Return to top |
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